tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2977722860251289885.post5009389530897208969..comments2023-08-16T18:43:09.506+08:00Comments on Barnyard Chorus: Thank the Heavens I'm a Magical ChickenFarmer Plant'Alothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16367998061640199713noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2977722860251289885.post-44063501036165821472010-11-22T11:10:14.983+08:002010-11-22T11:10:14.983+08:00I'm struggling with this one. I believe in eq...I'm struggling with this one. I believe in equality, and women being able to share the same spaces with a group of men without being at risk for assault, and men taking responsibility for their sexual conduct. However, you mention "distrust that accompanies this patriarchal rape-excusing culture". The thing is, there have been so many examples of cases where a woman has been in the presence of a group of men and gets raped, but the complicating factor is alcohol. Perhaps the excuse comes from people acknowledging that people do stupid things they don't normally do when they are drunk. So that leaves the question, is it bad that women may feel they can't trust a group of drunk men and avoid being present in such situations? Should they ignore that sense of fear or warning they get and tell themselves that they have equal rights to be there and that if something bad happens the men will be punished. Should the woman have to go through something bad happening to her in order to teach the men a lesson, at her expense. Should she sacrifice her safety for the ideal of equality? <br /><br />I call myself a feminist, and I do trust men most of the time. But I like to think I'm also a realist that there are times where one cannot trust men. It is a shame, but the men have taught us that this is the case. That is something for them to think about, especially when they have alcohol in front of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2977722860251289885.post-20705770120159170172010-10-01T15:10:23.150+08:002010-10-01T15:10:23.150+08:00So, the bloke responded (not reproducing the link ...So, the bloke responded (not reproducing the link here), and <a href="http://weekdayblues.wordpress.com/2010/10/01/it-was-factually-rape/" rel="nofollow">there was even more fail</a>. *cringe*<br /><br />-- Weds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2977722860251289885.post-42325804452513755012010-09-16T21:40:37.419+08:002010-09-16T21:40:37.419+08:00madhairday:
That is fucking horrible (if you'...madhairday: <br /><br />That is fucking horrible (if you'll excuse my language). I might write about it!<br /><br />Anon & politicalguinea pig:<br /><br />I think your discussion illustrates how misogyny hurts both women and men, by creating a rape culture which encourages distrust between women and men. The kyriarchy promotes the sexist attitude that women are to be the gatekeepers of male sexual behaviour, and that men cannot simply take responsibility for keeping their own penises in their own boxers, or be solely accountable when they fail to do so. Everyone loses out: women are required to forgo opportunities to live a full life and instead enter a state of constant wariness, and receive unwarranted blame for rapes perpetrated upon us; while men suffer the insult that Anon speaks of, and lose out on the opportunity to form better relationships with women (without the distrust that accompanies this patriarchal rape-excusing culture). It sucks for everyone.Magical Chickenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13256590984043739432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2977722860251289885.post-61650681187691871662010-09-16T20:37:23.858+08:002010-09-16T20:37:23.858+08:00Politicalguineapig, 1.57 anon here.
You're ri...Politicalguineapig, 1.57 anon here.<br /><br />You're right. I completely understand what you're saying. To stay safe you work on the assumption that any man COULD be a lurking rapist. That's understandable and I'd probably do much the same, were I a woman.<br /><br />However, there's a difference between that understandable reaction and what Cheah is suggesting. Cheah seems to be suggesting not that every man MIGHT be a would-be rapist but that every man IS a would-be rapist.<br /><br />It's the "tarring us all with the same brush" which irks me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2977722860251289885.post-25102808738774955192010-09-15T09:40:36.674+08:002010-09-15T09:40:36.674+08:00Anon@ 1:57: Er, I kind of operate on the 'dorm...Anon@ 1:57: Er, I kind of operate on the 'dormant rapist theory' when I'm out and about. I don't talk to anyone, especially not men, and I try not to sit next to men on public transit. As for going out- ha,ha, no. I don't make enough money and I don't like going out by myself.Politicalguineapignoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2977722860251289885.post-39004604901868156702010-09-14T21:12:13.033+08:002010-09-14T21:12:13.033+08:00Benjamin Cheah seems to be operating under a delus...Benjamin Cheah seems to be operating under a delusion that consent for intercourse is acquired once a woman places herself in an irresponsible situation. What utter nonsense! Did he even read Robin Rheaume's piece? <br /><br />Irresponsible behaviour is independent of the decision taken by an individual/ group of individuals to have sex with someone DESPITE THEIR PROTESTATIONS TO THE CONTRARY. Someone they knew to have diminished faculties. It's ridiculous to suggest that "irresponsible behaviour" has the result of absolving the said individual(s) of any accountability for their heinous actions.<br /><br />In other news, have any Barnyard Creatures read the NYT article about rape victims in India being subjected to a vaginal examination to determine whether the woman had had sexual intercourse before, based on "laxity" of her vagina. For the sole purpose of discrediting her moral character at trial?<br /><br />VOMIT BLOOD AH.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2977722860251289885.post-80141748651298801992010-09-14T21:00:26.630+08:002010-09-14T21:00:26.630+08:00Sorry - same anon here. Forgot to mention:
It'...Sorry - same anon here. Forgot to mention:<br /><br />It's up to the men to do the responsible thing in this situation. And the responsible thing to do is to keep it in their pants.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2977722860251289885.post-40156984219711601562010-09-14T20:57:17.720+08:002010-09-14T20:57:17.720+08:00I'm not entirely sure how Benjamin Cheah's...I'm not entirely sure how Benjamin Cheah's comments could have been more offensive. As well as the offensiveness towards women mentioned in the Magical Chicken article already, Cheah seems to imply that within all men lies a dormant rapist, just waiting for a moment to pounce. As a man I find that pretty insulting.<br /><br />In my opinion it's completely irrelevant how "high-risk" the woman's behaviour is. Her being "irresponsible" isn't a great thing, of course, but that's irrelevant. If she doesn't want to have sex, she doesn't want to have sex.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2977722860251289885.post-40166084340422736652010-09-13T21:23:01.196+08:002010-09-13T21:23:01.196+08:00Glad to be of service, Anon.Glad to be of service, Anon.Magical Chickenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13256590984043739432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2977722860251289885.post-1264411704339236572010-09-13T13:42:53.742+08:002010-09-13T13:42:53.742+08:00Dear Magical Chicken,
I want you to know how happy...Dear Magical Chicken,<br />I want you to know how happy I am to see this post. When I read Benjamin Cheah's post I was literally trembling with rage and I am one of those who left him an angry comment, but I didn't have the ability to take apart his post and show why it was wrong, the way you do. Thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2977722860251289885.post-58969009357603343582010-09-10T15:21:21.610+08:002010-09-10T15:21:21.610+08:00Awww, thanks. You'll have me preening soon.Awww, thanks. You'll have me preening soon.Magical Chickenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13256590984043739432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2977722860251289885.post-5517743470402824562010-09-10T11:18:50.482+08:002010-09-10T11:18:50.482+08:00FUCK YEAH CHICKENS!
I have decided to start a rel...FUCK YEAH CHICKENS!<br /><br />I have decided to start a religion with the Magical Chicken as its deity. Thank you for existing.<br /><br />"...as if the vagina is either Open for Business and must accept all customers, or Regrettably Closed for the Day"<br /><br />This is nothing short of sheer brilliance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com